Tribal Council #5A

[Hosty Bo]

This has been a long time coming, but someone is being removed from the game. That player is...






































































































































Jamie has officially been removed from the game for continuously showing disrespect for the simple sake of breaking the rule.

He posted a conversation he had with someone where he bitched and whine about the game, insulting it along the way. I responded and he took it further. So that you hear pure facts and not "he said, she said" here is the entire conversation that took place (minus the chat):

Me...

If you don't like this game, please quit. I don't want people to play who will only be bringing down the cast.

Jamie...

i tried quitting. you pleaded with me to stay. should have let me.

and furthermore, keep the comments to yourself. I'm allowed to talk in whatever manner I'd like with the cast members. If they agree with me already, I'm not "bringing [anyone] down," so please mind your own business and let me torture through this by myself. I don't need your assistance. Thanks.

Me...

First, you never tried quitting to my knowledge and I've never encouraged you to stay. Second, if anyone here needs to "keep the comments to yourself" it would be you. I'm the host to the game...not your punching bag and certainly not someone you can tell what to do. When you insult me or my game...that makes it my business. If you want to play...then play. But there ARE rules to this game and nobody's an exception to those rules.

My suggestion...we BOTH let it just drop. Nobody gets insulted or further angered.

Jamie...

I'll let it drop when I fucking want to let it drop. Get off your high horse. KICK ME OUT OF THE GAME IF YOU FUCKING WANT TO. I tried quitting and if I had the conversation I'd show it to you just to prove you wrong -- "I REALLY wish you'd reconsider, etc. etc." -- convenient that you forgot about it when you're on the losing side of an argument though.

If the RULES are bullshit, then I will IGNORE those rules. I'm not talking to you directly about the game, I'm talking to the players about it - if your challenge is shitty and predicated solely upon players being online, I am entitled to complain about it. You've had some good challenges, some shitty ones. Sorry that you're not willing to take the criticism as well as the praise.

I'm not going to censor myself to make you feel better. Sorry. So if you want to boot me, please girl, feel free.

Me...

I'm not on a high horse. You're intentionally being disrespectful. You knew the rules coming into the game. If you can't obey them then I will remove you. I'm not asking you to "suck up to me" or even telling you that you can't give your opinion. If you think my challenges are bad...then feel free to say so, but in a respectful way. Not in an immature, insulting way. We're both adults here. There's no reason not to act like it.

I just searched through my logs and I never asked you to stay in the game nor did you ever tell me you were going to quit. I could print screen them for you if you like.

Jamie...

Every time I try to tell you that your game is full of shit, you say some wise ass remark like "you know what they say about assuming " or "Keep trying and kick some ass!"

It's hard to do that when rules are vague and challenges require only that you are online and not a lick of thought.

For example; Last night during the challenge, I "blocked" a few of the balls that were launched by Yaxha. However, before this even happened, you asked us to PICK roles (either launcher or catcher) prior to the challenge.

If we hadn't even chosen our roles yet, under what rules of consistency do you consider me blocking 2 or 3 balls an official statement of my role? If you're going to have rules, BE CONSISTENT. I'm not crazy here. Anytime I TRY to express how I feel this game is poorly organized and poorly executed, I get shot down by you as either "immature" or "disrespectful."

There is a clear difference between immaturity, respect and truth. I am being nothing but truthful to you. Use it as a stepping stone to improve what you're doing in the future, because sorry sweetie, IT ISN'T PERFECT. Not even close.

NOWHERE in your rules does it say I cannot complain about this game IN PRIVATE to the players. It is YOUR choice to read the confessionals and similarly, YOUR choice to comment on those confessionals on my board. I didn't ask you to nor did I invite you to. Don't like what you see? Close your fucking eyes.

My 'disrespect' to you ended because I'm no longer going to speak to you on AIM. If you don't want to see what I have to say about this game, which I am MORE than entitled to talk about, don't read my confessionals. Or add another biased rule that says "don't disrespect the host in your confessionals."

Thanks.

Me...

Me telling you to "keep trying" isn't being a smartass, it's me encouraging you to keep trying.

My rules aren't vague at all. They're quite clear actually and your example if anything supports this fact. As you just said I asked you BEFORE you blocked to pick a Launcher and it clearly said in the challenge that a Launcher can NOT block. So therefore when you blocked...you made your choice in which role you wanted. It's very simple and very much consistent. This game is NOT poorly organized nor is it poorly executed. Everything is thoroughly thought out and planned in advance.

Your attitude is why I say you're acting immature and disrespectful. If you have a problem, you talk it out. You don't try and belittle the person. THAT is what you do and THAT is what I have a problem with. That clear difference you speak of...you don't follow it. Just because you have a low opinion of something...doesn't make it truth.

Feel free to complain, but when you post them on MY board...yes MY board, not yours...then I have a right to respond. If YOU don't like it...don't post it.

I really don't care if you speak to me on AIM. I think blocking someone is an immature act and only further proves the point I try and make. Especially since it's an unnecessary one, us not talking on AIM much in the first place.

The respect rule has been in my ORGs for over 6 years now, when I first started hosting. It wasn't "added".

So I'm making this my official verbal warning to you. If you wish to continue playing in this game...simply calm down and show a little respect. Feel free to share your feelings and discuss problems you may have. But insulting and belittling will not be tolerated.

Jamie...

Fuck you. Is that my next warning?

Me...

Strike 1.

Jamie...

I quit. Adios.

You can take this as him quitting or as me removing him, but either way he's banned from the site and is no longer apart of this game.

What does this mean for you guys? Well...since you guys were going to 2 TCs...this means the first will be cancelled and Jamie's removal will be considered the first of the 2 planned eliminations.

[Steve Wright]

Bye Jamie

[Julie Wolfe]

wow

[Krista Klumpp]

wow Bye Jamie

[Burton Roberts]

bye Jamie